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It has been awhile since I put up any lists so I thought I would post what I have been working on as of late. I wanted a codex army/color scheme and liked the mentors look and "limited fluff" the most. I wanted an all drop pod army, as I already had a biked themed one, and I came up with this.

Feel free to post comments, questions or critiques, as I playtest I may tweak some of the units but for right now I like where the list is at.

For those artisticly inclined I have also included a painting update.

Scout

The Mentors - 2000 Pts of Drop Pod Hell
HQ: 1 Master of the Forge @ 105 Pts
Storm Bolter - Finished

Elite: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod- Finished

Elite: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod- Rough base coats on the dread, Drop Pod is finished.

Elite: Dreadnought @ 160 Pts
2x Twin Linked Auto cannon; Drop Pod- Finished

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 210 Pts
Sergeant w/Melta Bomb; Bolter (x7); Flamer; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod- Finished

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 210 Pts
Sergeant w/Melta Bomb; Bolter (x7); Flamer; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod- Finished

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 215 Pts
Sergeant w/Melta Bomb; Bolter (x7); Meltagun; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod - SGT has rough basecoats, but the rest of the squad if finished, pod just needs highlights.

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 235 Pts
Sergeant w/Power Fist; Bolter (x7); Meltagun; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod - Squad is completely finished, pod is Primed.

Fast Attack: 5 Man Assault Squad @ 115 Pts
Sergeant w/Melta Bomb; Bolt Pistol (x4); Chainsword (x5); Remove Jump Packs; Flamer; Drop Pod- Squad is completely finished, pod is Primed.

Heavy Support: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod- Rough base coats on the dread, Drop Pod is finished.

Heavy Support: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod- Rough base coats on the dread, Drop Pod is finished.

Heavy Support: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod - Dread is assembled but bare plastic, Drop Pod is finished.

Total Roster Cost: 2000

I think Vulkan would be very useful since you have a lot of melta/flame weapons

Interesting thought. I had to take some time to think before I responded.

I came to the conclusion that putting him in is not the best idea for this list for the following reasons.

1. The loss of combat tactics. Since the army is mostly tactical squads and dreadnoughts I need to be able to make the tactical squads as good as they can possibly be. That means they need to be able to do what they do best - rapid fire with their bolters. Combat tactics also plays to that strength. As the Tac squads will mostly split into combat squads and moved seperately. The chances that they will be forced to take a moral check goes up. The tactical flexability of being able to fail, by choice, is too good to ignore. Imagine that you move to charge my unit of five marines and you shoot at them in the shooting phase to soften them up. If you cause a panic/moral check, I can choose to fail it and flee outside of six inches charge range. This means that you miss the chance to assault, and I can shoot you again with the unit the next turn - rapid fire of course.

2. Psychic Defense. As this army scales up one of its big weaknesses is the ability to deal with psycic powers. I am more inclined to use a Librarian as a second HQ choice over any other. I have this list tailored at all the points levels; 1000, 1500, 1750, and 2000 points while I am here. When I go back to Minnesota 1850 is the most common build. I will simply take my 1750 point list and add a Librarian to it for a finished list.

3. Vulkan is a Salamander. Now I'm not the biggest fluff guy around, but I am consious of the fact that The Mentors and the Salamanders probubly won't be hanging around together and writing a justification for why they are together is too much of a hassle in my opinion.

Thanks for the comment,

Scout

another interesting character is that ultramarine libby, he gives +1 to reserves and that could be pretty useful

Yeah, seems Tigrius would help out greatly as he grants rerolls to any reserve rolls. Plus, he is a libby which seems to fit your necessities well. Still, he is a tad on the expensive side, 230 pts.
Maybe drop the Assaut squad (which, incidentally, I'm not entirely sold on in the first place), cut the power fist squad down to a naked combat squad and drop a meltabomb somewhere.
That would free up enough points for Tigrius in the 2000pts setup.

...then again, I'm an Ultramarine enthusiast and a newb, so take this with a pinch of salt :)

I think psychic defense is always needed, you will see dangerus psykers like rune priests and farseers very often

After 4 games at the 2000 point level, all vs. various Marine armies, I found I like certian units over others, tactics that were both good and bad, so I made the following changes to my army list.

Feel free to post comments, questions or critiques, as I continue to playtest I may tweak some the units some more but I need to play more games with this version first.

For those artisticly inclined I have also included a painting update.

Scout

The Mentors - 2000 Pts of Drop Pod Hell
HQ: 1 Master of the Forge @ 100 Pts- Finished

HQ: 1 Librarian @ 100 Pts (Force Dome and Null Zone) - Bare Metal

Elite: Dreadnought @ 160 Pts
2x Twin Linked Auto cannon; Drop Pod- Finished

Elite: Dreadnought @ 160 Pts
2x Twin Linked Auto cannon; Drop Pod- Still Converting but Rough base coats on the dread, Drop Pod is finished.

Elite: Dreadnought @ 160 Pts
2x Twin Linked Auto cannon; Drop Pod- Still Converting but Rough base coats on the dread, Drop Pod is finished.

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 220 Pts
Sergeant w/Power Weapon; Bolter (x7); Flamer; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod- I need to give the SGT a Power Weapon, everything else is finished

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 220 Pts
Sergeant w/Power Weapon; Bolter (x7); Flamer; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod- I need to give the SGT a Power Weapon, everything else is finished

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 215 Pts
Sergeant w/Melta Bomb; Bolter (x7); Meltagun; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod - Finished.

Troops: 10 Man Tactical Squad @ 215 Pts
Sergeant w/Melta Bombs; Bolter (x7); Meltagun; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod - Finished.

Heavy Support: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod- Finished.

Heavy Support: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod- Need to finish highlights on the dread and then add static grass, Drop Pod is finished.

Heavy Support: Dreadnought @ 150 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod - Dread is assembled but bare plastic, Drop Pod is finished.

Total Roster Cost: 2000